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В выходные немножко повязали - поснимали. Вяжу я, фотограф Олег Attic. Приглашаем моделей для дальнейших творческих экспериментов:-) Мы в Питере.
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Иногда модели, как и все женщины, опаздывают...
Чем бы себя занять?... →
Сделал себе новые веревки. И та возня, которая способствовала их преображению от покупки обычного такелажного джута до того, что вы увидите, как-то сроднила меня с ними еще до первого узла, завязанного на теле.

А вот что получилось.... →
Освещение рабочего места - очень важная часть трудового процесса...

Как-то так..посветлее →
Вот, как-то сидя дома, пришла в голову идея, что для подвеса совсем не обязательно искать или ставить анкер в потолок, вешать балки или карабины, сверлить перекрытия, пытаясь засверлиться к соседям сверху...Ведь нужна всего лишь веревка...и хотя бы одна дверь.... примерно вот так →
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Liebe Freunde, wir laden Sie zu KinbaCon ein!

KinbaCon - ist die erste europäische Convention, die ausschließlich der japanischen Kunst des erotischen Bondage - Kinbaku gewidmet ist.
In einigen Ländern ist diese Kunst unter dem Namen «Shibari» mehr bekannt.

Die Convention hat die folgenden Hauptziele:
  1. Die Sammlung diejenigen, die wirklich Interesse an erotischen Bondage im japanischen Stil haben.
  2. Die verschiedene Techniken des Bondage, die von verschiedenen Meister verwendet werden zu zeigen.
  3. Die Möglichkeit zu geben die Techniken des Bondage zu lernen oder das Niveau der Meisterschaft zu erhöhen für diejenigen, die darin wirklich interessiert sind.
  4. Die eigenartige Schönheit der Kunst des Kinbaku zu zeigen.
Die Convention wird während zwei Tage gehen, am 23-24 Mai, in einer der schönsten Städte Europas - Lwiw.

Der erste Tag - die Auftritte von Meister aus verschiedenen Ländern: Japan, Frankreich, Russland, die Ukraine.
Der zweite Tag - die Ausbildung, die speziell eingeladen Kinbakushi aus Japan - Arisue Go durchführen wird.

Während der Convention wird sich der Verkauf des japanischen Seil, den Tutorial-Bücher und DVD's verwirklichen.

Wir warten auf alle, wer zur japanischen Kunst des erotischen Bondage nicht gleichgültig ist.
Kommen Sie zu uns, lassen Sie uns gemeinsam die Schönheit des Kinbaku genießen!

Details, Tickets und viele andere nützliche Informationen auf der offiziellen Webseite von KinbaCon - http://kinbacon.org/
korobokuru speaks maliciously about the standard length and thickness of rope in Japan. He doesn't believe, that the Japanese consider the standard a rope, which length is about 7 meters and a thickness is 6 mm.
I'll express my opinion.

Concerning a thickness of the rope. This is so obvious, that I even don't know what here it's possible such especial to tell. Indeed, on 90% of the images kinbaku/shibari made by Japanese figured exactly 6-mm rope. Yes-yes, those two bu. In any way not four. There are rare exceptions, where shows the thick rope, but it's usually another rope (non-conventional jute): either manilla or Seiu. Such rope is used more for fetish.

As to the length. What is the length of rope to use - is the private affair of everyone, who works with it. First of all, the length of the rope should be comfortable for the kinbaku/shibari-artist. For example, I have defined for myself optimum length of ~8.5 meters.
By the way, korobokuru itself answers a question, why exactly 7 m. Really, Japanese consider standard a rope in 4 ken (the length of tatami). 1.81 * 4 = 7.24 (meters).
I'll list below opinions of the Japanese Masters, which no more mythical, than we are and to doubt in their skill to me precisely it's not necessary.

Here's what says about this in one of the video-interviews:

The length is basically based on the convenience of the person, that ties. The length of the rope is not based on the person you ties. So, if you live in a country with very big people, that doesn't mean you need longer rope to accomodate this bigger bodies. You would still need rope, that accomodates your own body. Let's say, if you take the center of the rope and pulled a part ones, than you do it again, your end are shot little ends. So, you did three actions. Pull once, pull twice and than find the end of your rope. That is all you want to do. You don't want to pull ten times and then you find your ends and then you just again to find the center again and when tying you don't want to have 10 meters, 12 meters, 15 meters. You want to have reasonable length of rope. Not too short and not too long.
And just so happens, based on traditional measurments within the japanese system. You have tatami and you have all kinds of special units in Japan nowadays. So, based on this, plus based on the convenience, and based on body dimensions. Just so happens, that in the shibari system you work with rope, that is either 7 or 8 meters. And you always use the same length of rope, once you decided on one length, all your rope will be of the same length.


And makes more exact later:
But this is not an exact science. Because the old measurements (units) cannot not EXACTLY be transfered into the metric system. From a practical standpoint, basically what you want is NOT having to pull rope more than twice the length of your arm(s). Otherwise you spend too much time with pulling rope = inefficiency.


Here is a piece of an interview with :
What about rope length? Here in Japan, everyone seems to use ropes that are about seven meters long. But in the West, people are using all kinds of lengths. What do you think about that?

Again, there is a reason that we Japanese use seven-meter ropes. First of all, that length goes back to the traditional Japanese measurement system. Although we now use the Western metric system, most of the time Japanese rooms are still measured in terms of tatami mats, which is part of the old system. Two tatami mats together form a unit called a tsubo, and that’s the unit most people use when talking about real estate and land. Now, if you take a rope and run it around the circumference of a tsubo, those two tatami mats together, the length comes to roughly seven meters. So it’s a traditional length.
Now, the reason we use that length in shibari relates to the average arm span of an adult man, which is about 1.75 meters. Think of it this way: you take a seven-meter rope and fold it in half, giving you 3.5 meters. You pull it once using the full length of your arms, 1.75 meters, and you pull it again — another 1.75 meters, and then you’re done. It’s the most efficient length in terms of the average adult’s arm span. If the rope were longer, you would spend too much time pulling it.

Okay, but some people in the West do use longer ropes, say 10 meters, and they say they need the longer length because the people they are tying are physically larger than the typical Japanese woman.

I think it’s better to think in terms of what’s most efficient when you’re tying rather than the size of the model. You’re a Westerner, and quite a tall guy. Let’s stand up for a moment and compare our arm spans. See? Almost the same. So in terms of the pulling movements used in shibari, a seven-meter rope would be more efficient for you than a 10-meter rope.


Also 6-millimeter natural jute ropes in length of 7 meters are used by not less known Masters and . Probably I'll add a bit later an opinion on this point in question of .

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Source, close to the , tells:
Historical reason of 7m is not very sure, it is often said that to round "1 tsubo" is about 7m. "Tsubo" is old fashined unit to measure dimention in Japan. 1 tsubo equals to 2 tatamis. Standard tatami size is 90cm x 180cm, so 1 tsubo is a squiare of 180cm.
But nowadays you don't have to stick to the length of 7m. It depends on the size of your models. uses 6mm diameter of 7m and 5m because his models are normally Japanese women. 5m is for suspension rope.
Other mistresses who tie submissive men often use 8m or sometimes 10m, diameter of 8mm.
As European people are larger than Japanese, of course you can use 8m or 8.5m if you like. It helps you using less numbers of ropes. On the other, we must say shorter the easier to handle. Longer ropes are easier to be tangled up.
There are advantages and disadvantages.

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